Even if he is still fighting for this n Â° 1 place, The life of Peter 5 reflects the lyrical and emotional growth that Pi’erre has gained since dropping the last entry in 2019, while maintaining his usual high-level production. He speaks candidly about the various family ties, the adaptation to fame and the heights of rap that he still wants to achieve. Songs like “Couch” are one example, with Pi’erre humming about how he slept on his friend’s couch, and now they’re out of touch.
âA lot of people will say that’s what they did before fame, but not many people are just telling their stories,â he explains. “I have the impression, with TLOP 4, I touched my life a bit with songs like ‘How High’ and being in Queens with my friends and stuff, but it was brief. With TLOP 5, I really wanted to dive in and open up about some things that I have experienced.
In a conversation with Billboard, Pi’erre Bourne talks about the release of his latest album, The life of Peter 5, what it means to end this series and how life has positively impacted his music.
Therefore The life of Peter 5 is finally in the world. How do you feel now that the album is out?
It feels good. I feel like now is the perfect time, now that the world is opening up again, that anyone can walk around everywhere without a face covering. This is the perfect time for everyone to come out and come to the pop-up [shops] and regain a normal feeling.
I know this album has basically been done since 2019. Have any of these songs been tinkered with and remastered since you originally finished them?
The majority of it, I definitely finished around the time I got there The life of Peter 4, but i did a lot of new material last year around my birthday in september and october. I did a lot of new material for this album at the time, so it’s about half and half. I didn’t want to just pull out a bunch of old stuff.
What made you want to start the album with a conversation with your grandmother?
This song [âSwitching Lanesâ] actually fled. It leaked before I could finish my creative contribution, so I just wanted to present it as I originally planned. With the leak, however, there is so much I can change, because people love the leaks. So I kind of left it as it was – but I made my grandmother’s part the intro to the album, instead of all on one song.
TLOP 5 marks the first time you’ve included other artists in the series since the first one you dropped. What made you want to include Playboi Carti, Lil Uzi Vert and Sharc here?
Since it was the final TLOP of the series, I wanted to add a few features with people who have helped me in my career and really helped me get known to the public. So getting Uzi and Carti was the perfect thing to do.
The documentary you dropped to coincide with the album was also very insightful. Are you planning to do more archival documentaries like this?
In fact, we have over three years of stock footage, so we’ll continue to put content together. The documentary was just meant to explain how I started Pierre’s life series, but there is a lot more content that I wanted to release. I haven’t done it now because I didn’t want to release a bunch of stuff at once. I want people to really understand how it started, who I am and why I’m doing this, so I felt like this documentary was an introduction to explain it all.
I’m happy that everyone is responding well and asking for more. All of the content in the documentary is from 2016 – so it’s pretty silly, that everyone is excited to see things like this and want more. Because I have so much more.
You said in the doc that you knew the TLOP the series would end when you “were on”. When did you know you were successful as a rapper?
Honestly, I don’t think I’ve been successful as a rapper yet. I feel like I have succeeded as a producer. With TLOP 4 and 5, I was the one who made everyone see that I rap, but a lot of people still haven’t heard TLOP 1, 2, or 3. There is still a gap to be bridged between the millions of people who know me as a producer as opposed to an artist. I just need to gain more awareness, and that’s about what the music did.
As an artist, how much do you think you’ve grown since you started the TLOP series
I have lived more life. When I started TLOP, I just lived in the studio and didn’t see much, so my creativity was in a box. Now that I have been able to travel the world, see things and meet so many different people in the world who love my music, I have learned so much more. I feel like it helped me grow as an artist, and lyrically, I just have more to write about. Since I started living my life, everything started to take off, and I had a lot to say in my songs.
About to hook up for “Couch,” you talk about how you and your brother don’t really talk anymore. What are your emotions behind this song?
I know everyone is drawn to this song, it’s very personal, but I’m pretty clear about the issues I was trying to address on the song. Not many people have said that to a song: “Hey, I’m sleeping on my friend’s couch.”
And I’m not trying to be an a – hole with what I’m saying on the hook of “Diapers”, that’s exactly what it was. It doesn’t get any more to the point than what I said on the hook, until sleeping on my friend’s sofa, and now we don’t talk to each other. Anything else would be just dramatic shit, and I’m not a dramatic person. I have the impression that everyone can find their way around.
He’s not necessarily my brother either. It could be my cousin, a friend of mine I call my brother. It doesn’t have to be my brother. I only have one brother, and he and I talk all the time, so it wasn’t about my little brother.
You mentioned how much you hate leaks, and also tweeted in November of last year that “making music is the easiest part of all this shit”. What’s the hardest part of it all, then?
It has been very difficult for everyone because of COVID. The process of music creation has not changed. It has never changed for me, so I feel like getting it to the public and presenting it in the right way is a lot more difficult. No one really knows the right or the wrong way. Sometimes it’s just luck or luck, or the right time. I feel like this is the part I wanted to say in terms of “hard” things, but making music, doing songs is what I’ve been doing since I was a kid, so this is the part. the easiest. I just learned and improved.
On the production side, the break you put in “Drunk and Nasty” looks like the one you put in Carti’s song “Place”. Is that concert break becoming something that you are starting to use more of?
âDrunk and Nastyâ has been a leak for a long time and it’s always had that break. But I’ve always kept it the way it was, the only thing I changed was adding Sharc to it and putting a kind of drill vibe to the beat when he started rapping. But as far as my role and the basis of the song are concerned, I didn’t want to change anything, everyone likes it like that. Since there aren’t any gigs systematically yet, it’s hard to see how the crowd will gravitate towards this, so I’m happy to do these two pop-ups that I did. Everyone loves it because I know a lot of people back home who make music who don’t really know what people like.
You tweeted that Carti has more verses on the deluxe version of the album, and there will be plenty of previews. What else can fans expect in luxury?
Well a lot can change so i don’t mean i have everything ready now because i’m still waiting for the songs and the features. So I didn’t mean to say it’s going to be anything specific, but I really wanted to put samples on the songs that were on TLOP 5. Like, I have different versions of the same song that just have samples in the beat that I cut that were really crazy to me, and I want people to hear that kind of production with these songs. You never know what they will say, but they might gravitate towards it even more. I didn’t want to add new songs to the deluxe. I wanted to do a real deluxe version where the same songs that I have already released get a newer version.
With the last luxury it was COVID, I knew the world was shutting down, so I knew we just had to release a few songs for the fans, but I didn’t have a plan yet for [TLOP] 5. I didn’t want to release a new album, so I just kept pushing TLOP 4 last year with the deluxe. But this time I’m like, “Okay, the world is opening up again, I want to make a real luxury.”
I’m still unsure because I kinda like the album the way it is, but I already have the versions with the samples on them. Me and Carti, we hooked up and he made a few records, like a remix of some of the songs that I put on 5. But when Carti and I work we’re so sporadic, so I don’t know if they are. will always be there. We could have a whole different plan with what we do in the future. I know I tweeted what I tweeted, but I still tweeted some things that stick around, so I hope my tweets stay true.
Is there anything else fans can look forward to seeing soon?
At the moment we are finishing the Balmain tape I’m working on with TM88. He did all the beats, and I rapped on it, so this will be the sequel TLOP 5. And Sharc, who’s on “Drunk N Nasty”, gives up on his first project and I did, like, all the beats there. It’s happening this Friday, so that’s what I’m preparing for – and this Sosshouse thing going crazy. Chavo is coming out, Jelly is releasing something soon, just a lot more Soss coming out and more videos for TLOP go out. I also had a lot of other projects, including one with Cardo [Got Wings] that I just finished, then I’m ready to take them out.